DAP currently integrates with all WordPress-based Forum plugins – like bbPress, Simple:Press, WP Forum, etc.
DAP also integrates with vBulletin.
This post is primarily about integration with WP-based forums. For vB integration details, click here.
Integration with bbPress, Simple:Press, WP Forum, etc
What this essentially achieves, is that once your forum plugin has been integrated with DAP (explained below), anyone who is a member in your DAP-powered membership site, will also be automatically be logged in to your forum when they log in to your membership site.
So they won’t have to log in twice [like, once into DAP and once into your forum].
Here’s how you set up the DAP/forum integration.
- Download the 3rd party wordpress forum plugin
- Install it as per their instructions. We don’t support the installation or setup of the forum plugin itself.
- Log in to your DAP Admin Dashboard and click on “Config > Advanced”.
- You have two settings on the page that applies to forum integration:
“Sync DAP User data and WP User data“
“Sync WP data only for PAID users“.(Both are explained further below.) - Pick “Y” or “N” for each of them, and you’re all set.
First, a quick explanation of both settings.
1) Sync DAP User data and WP User data
If you turn this to “Y” (for “Yes”), then every time someone logs into DAP, they’re automatically logged into WordPress too (with a “User” role). And because they’re logged into WordPress, that means they’re also logged into your forum (because you are using a WordPress-based Forum Plugin which already integrates with your WordPress blog.)
2) Sync WP data only for PAID users
This one matters only if you have set (1) above to “Y”.
So once you have decided to turn on the DAP/Forum plugin integration, then if you want only your “PAID” members to have access to the forum, then set this to “Y”.
If you don’t care about both FREE and PAID users accessing your forum, then set this to “N”.
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Ravi lets say you have multiple products and one recurring product and you would like to give access to forum only for paid members of the recurring product but not to paid members of other products, is there a way to do that?
Thanks
Fred,
No, that is not possible at this time.
You can give access to your forums to …
1) all PAID users (OR)
2) all FREE users (OR)
3) None.
- Ravi Jayagopal
Have you tried this with a buddypress install? For some reason buddypress pages aren’t working with it.
Debra,
DAP doesn’t integrate with BuddyPress yet. Hopefully, that will happen in the next couple of months.
- Ravi
Thanks Ravi, I’m still getting organised for the launch of my membership offering, but this will help a lot. It’s a real pain to have to log in twice.
Does it work with vBulletin?
Not yet. But it will, in the next version – v3.8. Hopefull end of April. Keep ‘em crossed
Hey Ravi,
Is it possible to sync forum posts with their access level of content?
What I mean by this is if someone has access to only the first month’s content, I don’t want them to be able to access forum posts that are about month 3 or 4.
Because we don’t want them to get confused or ahead of themselves and obviously we don’t want them to get access to what’s to come before they’ve paid.
Thanks =)
Russel,
That is not possible with DAP. Also, that would make it extremely complicated even to design, because now you are talking about dripping even forum topics – just like blog posts.
I don’t think we’re ever going to go that far. Better not to worry too much about the forums. Just control the main content using the dripping. Leave the forums alone.
Endlessly trying to lock down every tiny piece of your site is not going to be very productive for you, and it would probably be annoying for your members too. Just a thought.
- Ravi Jayagopal
Thanks Ravi,
Is there a way to create different user levels for the same product? Where you could set it so each month that they progress forward, they gain a higher access (to the next consecutive user level)?
Also, does dap use the actual WP Roles in any way? Here’s the response I got back from the Simple-Press Admin…
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you can control who has access to a forum… but not topic or post… please see our wiki getting started section about user groups and permissions…
what membership plugin? many folks using wishlist with lots of success… as long as the membership uses wp roles, you can map an spf user group (and hence permissions) to a wp role and control access to forums… the mapping is on forum – options – member settings…
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Thanks again,
Russell =)
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Hi Ravi,
I’m using SimplePress with DAP. When I sync them with both settings to Y, my forum page redirects to my DAP Admin page. I can’t get to my forum at all?
I don’t like the utilitarian look of most forums. I would like to set up a forum sync membersite with Ning. Do you have a way to do that with DAP? If not, I suppose I could have a link to the NING site within the membership portion of my website and members could access it that way. I would want them to be able to come back via a link and not have to re-login. Is this possible? BTW, NING and other such sites are more attractive and social than the usual forum, so if you don’t sync with them, it may be a nice idea for the future. Thanks
Iyoume,
There’s no automatic syncing with Ning at this time. Ning is a great service, even though they’ve gone premium (no more free communities).
We are definitely going to be checking out their API at some point, but for now, you’re better of just managing the adds and removes manually. Don’t let them register directly. You manually give them access via the DAP Dashboard. But without a DAP/Ning integration in place, I’m afraid they will have to log in twice.
Hi Ravi,
Thanks for a great program. Do DAP integrate with SMF, SimpleMachines Forum?
Thanks / Lars
Lars,
DAP doesn’t integrate with SMF yet. We have this on our TODO list. Hopefully within 2-3 months.
- Ravi Jayagopal
Jake,
If you are logged in to DAP as an admin, then first logout from DAP dashboard and test the sync to Simple Press/ WordPress using a regular user login.
Ravi,
We’re using DAP and buddypress together right now – hoping that the integration will be tighter soon. What’s the status of your work on this?!
–Karen
Just an FYI: When you synch with a forum, only new users who register after you’ve set up the synch will actually be synched. Any users who were previously registered before you started the synch, will need to be manually added to the WP database.
Is DAP integrate with SMF, SimpleMachines Forum yet? Was 2-3 month in May, is it closer?
Have everything but just need the “one” login to make it better.
Thanks / Lars
Lars,
DAP 3.9 will integrate with vBulletin. It will be a full-fledged integration where you can allow access to different forums based on the user’s membership level.
Next on the list is DAP integration with SMF. It is still a couple months away from launch.
Lex,
>> When you synch with a forum, only new users who register after you’ve set up the synch will actually be synched. Any users who were previously registered before you started the synch, will need to be manually added to the WP database.
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Not true. Say the users registered before sync was setup, then after you setup sync, if these users login to their membership area and access content, they will automatically be sync’d at that time to WP.
wow, A “full-fledged” integration for SMF (Simple Machines Forum) would be realle awesome…
Are there any new information about the release date of the DAP version that supports this?! =D
Oliver,
The extent of DAP integration with SMF will depend on the APIs and documentation offered by SMF. Hopefully the SMF integration will allow users to configure and control the SMF access based on membership level like we are able to do now with vBulletin and DAP.
The release is atleast 8 weeks away. If all goes well, it will be part of DAP 4.0.
Can someone help? Still trying to get my head around whether this scenario can be done with DAP in tandem with Simple:Press (as you know, SP simply uses existing WP user db, like DAP):
- at opt-in, members are given the choice of a free or paying membership and presented with the appropriate aWeber form which puts them on the appropriate list (and DAP puts them in the right user group)
- the forums have a forum or forum group (guess it doesn’t matter) which is ONLY readable or postable by paying users (only the forum/group link is visible, so they can still see the names of threads etc).
- forum also has a PUBLIC group which can be READ by the public and by search engines, and posted to IF they sign up as a ‘free’ member (and go on my autoresponder). The free public group is kind of a teaser for the private group.
Can this be implemented in DAP, i.e. users given permission to access/read/write a particular forum depending on their paying status?
Grateful for a reply, I am considering the very good offer to get two licences for the price of one by Christmas Day so hope I can clarify this before then
>> Can this be implemented in DAP, i.e. users given permission to access/read/write a particular forum depending on their paying status? <<
DAP cannot control access to a particular SP forum depending on membership status (paid / free / non-members). DAP access control will apply to all forums and not just a specific SP forum.
What you are asking for can be done with vBulletin and DAP but NOT with SP and DAP at this point. In future, we will try to incorporate more granular access control for free WP forum plugins but that support is not there currently.
OK, thanks. It would be great to have this and very much in keeping with the whole DAP idea. Plus I REALLY don’t plan to invest in vBulletin right now..! Kind of a shame I can’t do it right now as it feels like I am limited before I even got started
But I know what it’s like to be inundated with feature requests, I am sure the list is as long as your arm.
BTW I asked a similar question over at the forum (http://www.digitalaccesspass.com/forums/threads/51-Forum-integration-choices), but wanted to know if there was a workaround, by having DAP protect forums on a URL level. But I guess you would have though of that if it COULD be done..?
Does DAP work with Buddypress?
Forums cannot be protected at a URL level.
Robert,
Yes, DAP works with Buddypress.
Just the same way it does with bbpress and simple:press.
Just a quick note about how I implemented this with Simple Press at the site in my link above. Not perfect, but:
1) User registers through DAP and because Sync with WordPress is set to Y, a user is also created in WordPress as a Subscriber and therefore in Simple Press in the Members group (I guess that is how SP does it)
2) In Simple Press you define who has READ access to which forums – e.g. in my example above, non-logged-in visitors (i.e. with Guest status in SPF) can see the ‘EPN’ forum and even read posts, but if they go into the Making money online forum they can only see thread titles, they cannot read individual posts because these are limited to Members. This is all done in Simple Press, not in DAP, and I imagine you can do something similar with BP etc.
Now the BIG drawback still, and this is something I am eagerly awaiting, and I know a lot of others are – we cannot grant different levels of POSTING access to different forums. E.g. I would really like to allow non-paying visitors to be able to register but only be allowed posting access to the EPN forum. That is not currently possible with DAP and the WordPress-based forum plugins unfortunately. I understand this IS now possible with vBulletin, but obviously vB is a very heavyweight (not to mention expensive) option for many of us who want a simple, free forum solution.
Hope that helps someone, and hope more granular integration with DAP and WP forum plugins will be possible in the near future – I am sure that presents plenty of new programming challenges, as if you guys don’t have them already
Does DAP work with phpBB?
Mark, I just wanted to say “THANK YOU” for sharing how you did that… I’ve been going crazy trying to figure out how to set up the same type of system. You saved me a ton of time.
Holly, awesome, it’s always worth updating just in case someone else finds the info useful
By the way, this is still working reasonably well for me. I have to say I had problems with DAP login seemingly not always syncing with WP-SPF login, but that could have been a caching problem. I should add a suggestion – that you set SPF not to log users out at all if possible (I can’t seem to find that option right now, SPF admin panel is confusing). Nobody ever logs out of forums anyway so it will save any trouble with login syncing issues. Good luck!
I have sync turned on, but Simple:Press isn’t recognizing the user as logged in.
I’ve tried erasing the user and reupping with the sync turned on in advance. That didn’t work.
Any ideas for trouble shooting?
Actually before you check DAP -> SP login, make sure the sync between dap -> WP is working right.
Did you set the ‘sync paid users only’ to “Y” in dap setup -> config area ? If yes, then dap will only sync ‘Paid’ users to WP.
If you have users opting in via a free sign-up form, the user will be marked as free user in dap but because of the ‘only sync paid users’ config setting, dap will not sync free user to WP and the auto-login between DAP / WP / Forum will not work.
If you have set the dap setup -> config -> ‘sync only if username exists’ to “Y”, then the users that are created in dap will not be automatically sync’d to WP. They will have to pick a username in their dap profile to be sync’d.
To test:
1) Add a user manually to DAP via dap admin panel
2) click on the user’s name in the DAP admin -> Manage User’s page, and pick a username and hit update/save.
3) Also note down the user’s dap login id/password
3) Open a new browser where you are not logged in to DAP as admin
4) Now login to DAP again but this time as the user you created in step 1.
5) Now visit any part of the blog
6) The user should have gotten sync’d to WP
7) Now login to WP admin -> users -> and see if the new user was created in WP
Hi Veena. I have the software and was wondering:
Is there any way to stop people registering as a user on my phpbb forum (So the only way people can sign up is when they sign up to one of my products and they’re automatically signed up or given access to sign up)?
Thank you.
Hi Shaun,
DAP does not integrate with phpbb forum.
Can DAP integrate with Xenforo? http://www.xenforo.com
It’s an awesome forum solution (from former Vbulletin’s senior coders).
Hi Robert,
DAP does not currently integrate with Xenforo. We will look into it and maybe integrate it in a future release.
I asked this question about a week or 2 ago, but it didn’t get posted for some reason.
Can we allow access to different forums based on their user level with buddypress yet?
Thanks =)
Any updates on integrating DAP with Xenforo forum software? http://www.xenforo.com
That’s basically what I’m waiting for before I can make a decision on DAP. I will be hosting a private members only forum and I need DAP to manage the membership access and billing. Am also looking at some other solutions but DAP looks pretty feature rich.
Robert ,
Sorry, no updates on http://www.xenforo.com.
We might not be able to get to it for atleast the next 4-6 months. Our to-do list is already pretty full for the next few months based on feedback and feature requests from dap users.
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